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TOP STORIESHave banks cut too much?30 June 2009By Sarah Butcher COMMENTSHave banks cut too much? Well, ask those who have been laid off if they got back in the market. Read all comments »
Now that green shoots are sprouting like alfalfa and various institutions are hiring, it’s time to ask the inevitable? Were too many people let go? In some cases, the unavoidable answer appears to be that they were. Most notably, convertibles desks are seeing a sudden reversal in their fortunes: 80% of staff were reportedly slashed in late 2007/early 2008; now that issuance is up, banks are hiring again. But convertibles aren’t the only area where banks appear to be making amends for recent headcount reductions. Last week it emerged that Bank of America Merrill Lynch is rehiring Julian Trott, its former European head of fixed income syndicate for emerging markets into a similar role as head of central and eastern Europe, Middle East and Africa DCM. UBS is rumoured to have hired in structured finance after its few remaining team members threatened to leave due to a lack of critical mass, and JPMorgan is said to have rehired a senior DCM coverage banker. Having cut 25% of its investment bankers between the end of 2007 and the start of 2009, UBS in particular seems ill-placed to benefit from any upturn. However, there are people who take strong exception to the notion that banks are now regretting their recent cost cutting. “It all depends whether you think this is a recovery,” says Simon Maughan, an analyst at MF Global. “It’s no good saying capital market billings are up this quarter and everything’s fine. It’s only when government spending is scaled down that the pain will really be taken.”
COMMENTSLittleNicky, Debt / Fixed Income, Tue 30 Jun 09Hello Sarah,
Henry for Prime Minister, Debt / Fixed Income, Tue 30 Jun 09Of course they have, many front-office and support teams operate on a skeleton basis, ask anyone still working in an investment bank, there are so many stories of 'Ghost offices'. Even a small upturn in business is creation huge problems as key staff have been let go so banks are now forced to selectively hire people Add your comment »Wizard of EC1, Research, Tue 30 Jun 09The industry is unfortunately controlled by accountants whose vision of the future is about 3 months - of course they have cut too much, as they have in the past. Question is, will the talent that left the industry be tempted back? How will the industry plug the gaps left by the Grads that weren't hired? People have found out that Banking (outside the Front Office) doesn't pay as much as the myths suggested and the working culture is depressing. It will take more this time to attract people back - expect wage inflation in the next 18 months, especially amongst change people. Not only that, but the industry image has been tarnished significantly. As I have said in the past ....... the IB industry only has cash as an incentive and to compete for talent in the next 18 months, they're gonna needs loads of it! Won't be as easy as 2003/04. Add your comment »Whatever, Debt / Fixed Income, Tue 30 Jun 09"Question is, will the talent that left the industry be tempted back?"
RobRoy, Credit, Tue 30 Jun 09Another question: had the banks not hired too much in 2004-2007? Add your comment »Ari Gold, Hedge Funds, Tue 30 Jun 09Wizard of EC1, I think you are right. Most the "talent" that left the industry will probably rather continue to be unemployed, worrying about how to pay their Chelsea mortgage and how to pay for their childrens' education than be tempted back into that lousy job. You are right, there was never anything to it apart from the money. It was never interesting and challenging. And on the money side, why would anybody really want to get paid way more than their efforts are worth in any other industry (full disclosure: was at FO of US investment bank for many years). I am sure they are all dreaming of landing that marketing job at Procter & Gamble where they will be paid 20% of what they used to in banking. Add your comment »Jesper, Capital Markets, Tue 30 Jun 09"People have found out that Banking (outside the Front Office) doesn't pay as much as the myths suggested and the working culture is depressing."
Wizard of EC1, Research, Tue 30 Jun 09Whatever - I'm not talking about Front Office, more IT change folks. There are options out there, when considered as a package aren't too bad ( cash, working time, commute, job stability etc). Life is not just about the numbers before tax. A friend of mine has transferred into Defence consulting and reckons his pay as a Project Manager is 20% off what FS are offering ..... but the lifestyle and work environment is dramatically better and projects are funded for years into the future. Country house office in leafy Surrey or horrific hour plus commute on the Underground to the desolation of Canary Wharf - the choice is not as horrific as you may think. Perhaps "most of the people you know" need to think outside banking and stop begging :). If you don't believe me, go to the car park of your local Defence consultancy and count the new Porches! Add your comment »JDR, Private Banking / Wealth Management, Tue 30 Jun 09Banks always deal in extremes - on the hiring and firing side - plus mass firings are not mission critical. When demand returns so will hiring. If you think capital markets and banking are boring away from the large pay possibility, you should do something else. Add your comment » |
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