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How long before banks go back to hiring experienced juniors?


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Will be awesome in a couple of years when there's huge demand for VPs and not many people.. :-D  Read all comments »

Banks are recruiting senior staff and taking on university leavers and MBAs, but the hiring action around experienced analysts and associates remains negligible.

And despite claims that M&A is picking up, recruiters say there’s absolutely no indication when hiring at this level will resume.

This is partly because recruiters don’t know what’s going on: there are so many people on the market that banks are able to hire directly. It’s also because it takes a big pick-up in activity to drive recruitment of experienced juniors: it can be easier to reallocate people internally.

“Most places have enough people to support the deals that they’ve got, and enough slack to support a small increase in any extra deals that come in. If there is a step change in flow then the case for revisiting their junior resource needs will have to be revisited” says Jim Nairn at recruitment firm The Cornell Partnership.

“Banks are only going to hire at this level when activity picks up significantly,” says the head of HR at one European bank in the City. “It will be next year before we’re likely to need any experienced analysts or associates.”

The head of recruitment at one major US bank says junior hiring tends to be driven mostly by poaching. He also says that it lags mid-ranking and senior hiring by a few months, implying that it will happen in the near future. “The surge of refinancing coming out of the credit crunch means that our capital markets business is now firing on all cylinders and we’re focusing recruitment at the mid-ranking and senior level.”

In the meantime, the head of HR says redundant analysts and associates should make the most of their time off: “You should be studying, travelling, and living somewhere very cheap.”

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Peter, Debt / Fixed Income,  Mon 22 Jun 09

Not for another few years, I hope.

I was fortunate enough to be in the minority from a 2007 analyst class who stayed on. About to get promoted to Associate, whilst they're struggling to get anything my career carries on. Will be awesome in a couple of years when there's huge demand for VPs and not many people.. :-D

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john, Student,  Mon 22 Jun 09

Banks are hiring university leavers and MBAs? Really?..
I thought that market for entry level/1st year analysts is dead, I hardly know anyone among my university friends who managed to secure an graduate job from IB/AM/PE/etc. in 08/09

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AG, Student,  Mon 22 Jun 09

John, you must have gone to a inferior university or have unambitious friends. I do Economics & Maths at LSE, just finished finals and virtually everyone I know is heading straight into front office M&A, sales/trading, with a few straight into hedge funds and private equity.

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kolabrou,  Mon 22 Jun 09

AG, which companies and how you approached these companies? As far as am aware, graduate schemes are closed and open again in September.

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AG, Debt / Fixed Income,  Mon 22 Jun 09

klabrou, what?? We all did internships last summer and then won graduate offers around September to begin full-time this summer. Same story at every firm around - Goldman Sachs, Blackstone, JPMorgan, Bain etc.

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Niv, Quantitative Analytics,  Mon 22 Jun 09

Way too often, the comments on this site are littered with broad hints of pedantry, and annoying attitudes. "I'm an Oxbridge graduate, I'm better than you are", "me and my ambitious friends at LSE have multiple job offers from BBIB investment banks", "your university is inferior", "I'm in FO, I earned £1.5m in bonuses".
Seriously, its boring and when you grow up, you'll look back and realise how silly it all was. The best of the best, don't talk too much, they just go out there and perform as their ability dictates.

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bc, Derivatives,  Mon 22 Jun 09

Strangely, i actually think the quality of analysts has been falling.  Dread to think what this class will be like.  We'll have the likes of AG coming in not being able to do a thing for himself, having studied not enough maths and not enough economics in his "economics and maths" degree.  if i was hr i'd not consider anyone with "and" in their degree subject title.  Just an easier, weakened down course compared to the individual courses.

University exams are getting easier perhaps just like the way AS/A levels are ridiculously poor.  I taught 6th formers back while i was an undergrad in 2000 and even then the quality of the papers had fallen dramatically.

After a year of work being from oxford/cambridge / whatever does not matter.  Granted, it's great to get in and avoiding the "cr@p" uni filter HR puts on hiring grads

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Truth, Debt / Fixed Income,  Mon 22 Jun 09

Well said it's amazing how much these oxbridge people love themselves when the truth is they aren't even more intelligent, they just went to better private schools and had everything given to them on a plate!

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kolabrou,  Mon 22 Jun 09

and that s the case AG.

LSE, OXBRIDGE, IMPERIAL graduates secured a position on BB IBs because of the status quo of their UNI. Believe me there are graduates from top 20 unis clever than you and your peers.

There are 130 other universities around the UK, and many graduates who still looking for a job.  Look the whole picture... You ll have to learn this at your FO job

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Henry, FX & Money Markets,  Mon 22 Jun 09

"Well said it's amazing how much these oxbridge people love themselves when the truth is they aren't even more intelligent, they just went to better private schools and had everything given to them on a plate!"

But obviously private school educated people are infinitely better suited to the vast majority of banking jobs than state school educated ones? The only jobs state-schoolers can do is trading where it requires zero interaction with a (most likely public school) client.

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