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Alternative jobs for traders (and their pay)


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Come on, you can't go from a trader earning 6/7 figures to £40-45k (ie a 1st year graduate). Be realistic, who's going to do that? Anyone with any self-worth would try something audacious like entreprise, gambling, poker which could fail or win rather than accept £45k.  Read all comments »

Last week we looked at possible alternative careers for investment bankers who want to get out of financial services. This week, we’re providing a similar service for traders.

Former traders’ alternative career options are a lot more disparate than those for investment bankers, but they include –

1.) Recruitment

This may not be feasible in the current climate, but in better times ex-traders have reinvented themselves as financial services recruiters/headhunters. Examples include: Shaun Springer, chief executive of Napier Scott, or Adrian Ezra, founder and CEO of Execuzen.

James Campion, a former trader turned recruiter at Michael Page, says trading and recruitment have things in common: “Being able to think on your feet [as a recruiter] is a huge plus. You’re often instructed on a temp or interim post and have to turn it around very quickly. It requires a similar pace of thinking.”

Simon Hughes, a recruiter of recruiters at Highview Search and Selection, says the recruitment industry could benefit from an injection of ex-traders: “One of the criticisms you see leveled at recruiters is a lack of technical knowledge.” However, Hughes says traders will be fortunate to get a job in recruitment unless hiring picks up again.

Pay: Most former traders will need to go into recruiting/headhunting at associate level. This means a base salary of £40-50k, plus a negligible bonus.

2). Customer services in IT companies

IT companies offering trading systems used by banks can accommodate ex-traders as customer services professionals.

Simon Masters, head of recruitment for electronic trading vendor Trayport, confirms that this is so. However, he says junior traders are most likely to make the move because senior traders balk at the disparity in earnings.

Pay: Masters says customer services professionals in IT vendor companies can expect around £45k, although this is always dependent upon ‘what you can bring to the table.”

3). Professional poker

Traders have always an innate fondness for poker, and now that poker has moved online, it’s become more accessible. Style.com relates how one Wall Street banker turned to poker after losing his job, and then carried on playing poker once he'd found another one.

Pay: Steve Weinstein, a former Wall Street trader is said to have made $827k out of poker. He is the exception rather than the rule.

4). Other

Former traders have also been known to become tour guides (pay £25 a tour), owners of shops selling comics and best selling authors. We also suspect several are cab drivers.

COMMENTS

Hjalmar Lindholm, Trading,  Wed 10 Jun 09

Seriously, how is it possible to survive on £50k? What planet do you guys live on??

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John, Trading,  Wed 10 Jun 09

"...most traders are execution or sales traders"

99% of people, in banking and outside, don't know this.

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recconartist, HR & Recruitment,  Wed 10 Jun 09

hjalmar 2 yrs out of uni, now at ml in sales - you telling me you couldnt survive on 50k at lunds.

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ChrisW, Information Technology,  Wed 10 Jun 09

Yup, I agree with the general sentiment of the replies in this article. Whilst a 45K/year job might be better than nothing, it's not a pallatable solution for 99% of traders. Quite simply, with that kind of money you will still starve to death, not literally but mentally.

Asking a trader to do a £45K/year job is equivalent to asking a middle manager to take on a junior helpdesk job at £13K/year.

If you agree to that, you may as well throw the towel inn, cash in your assets and move elsewhere in the world where the sun shines.

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Hjalmar Lindholm, Trading,  Wed 10 Jun 09

recconartist, are you stalking me? I can do worse...

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retiredforgood, Derivatives,  Wed 10 Jun 09

50k sounds low - but i know HH guys that in good times make 600k - 1m+ with commision if good.  rare but they are out there.

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armagedon,  Wed 10 Jun 09

Traders can be great guys and valuable employees.  My experience is that with an MBA they turn into pretty good marketing people.  I suggest retrainning in that direction.

For the snobs, this is not about whether you will lower yourself to becoming a cab driver.  Life is hard, and it sometimes deals tough blows to good people.  Do what you have to do to in the short term and try to keep your eye on the ball in the long-term

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shanly, Private Equity / Venture Capital,  Thu 11 Jun 09

i am trading in indian stocks for the last 20 years
may i help you to develop your dreams

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Asian Trader, Trading,  Thu 11 Jun 09

Ahhh Mr Ezra of Flaming Ferrari fame...struck off by the FSA!

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